Killgrave
09-06-2013, 05:21 AM
I'm underwhelmed. Greatly. Wrong tone, wrong approach and the suit is all wrong. (Looks like something designed to hit warp speeds. I prefer the knight-in-armor-look of the original.) But I'll probably see it. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. RoboCop TRAILER 1 (2014) - Samuel L. Jackson, Abbie Cornish Movie HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UuVphAuRo7Q)

the marvin
09-06-2013, 10:28 AM
The cast is great and it can't be worse than 2 & 3 but there's no way it comes even close to being as good as the first one! It's one of my all time favorite movie!

Plutopurto
09-07-2013, 08:03 AM
After watching this trailer I guess I just lost interest in new films. Why is there the constant rebooting, rehashing, rereleasing, re-fucking-everything-up-ing?

I've only seen the first film twice, and it's sequel: Into Darkness, and the appeal and cultism is there, but did it merit a reboot? Why? When are they going to make original films again?

Killgrave
09-07-2013, 04:57 PM
Why all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, etc? Simple: Hollywood is a business and sequels make money. More than half the films released this summer were sequels and there are more to come. (Example: we're up to the fourth Transformer's film. Does the world really need another one? The first three were terrible but they were a license to print money. Look at all the attempts to find the next "Harry Potter" or "Twilight." All with the exception of the "Hunger Games" cratered.)

And when original films come along, I'm talking about the science fiction, fantasy and similar genre movies, the public ignores them. ("Cloud Atlas" and "Pacific Rim" come to mind. Thank god for cable, because a series like "Game of Thrones" would never have been green-lit as a movie. Could you imagine how Hollywood would have watered down a GoT, or "Homeland", "Dexter", "Breaking Bad" or "Walking Dead" movie?)

So until moviegoers start voting with their wallets the sequels will keep on coming.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
09-08-2013, 07:00 AM
Sam's hair is up to no good again.

Keaton is shrinking MUCH more than ever.

They used recycled bits from Tron: Legacy costumes.

It will be rated PG.

It won't make it's return in revenues and will have to cancel a supposed part 2,3 and 4.

Part 4 will have had a cross-over with Dredd 3D.
Part 3 will have been spending 90% of the movie as a human before he meets Dredd after the end credits and is convinced to go back as a cyborg (his gf will be happy with the mechanical upgrades :naughty:).

Rocklegend2000
09-13-2013, 06:03 PM
I'm underwhelmed. Greatly. Wrong tone, wrong approach and the suit is all wrong. (Looks like something designed to hit warp speeds. I prefer the knight-in-armor-look of the original.) But I'll probably see it. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. RoboCop TRAILER 1 (2014) - Samuel L. Jackson, Abbie Cornish Movie HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UuVphAuRo7Q)


This remake is everything that is wrong with Hollywood and why I no longer go to the movies... I see 2 films a year if I�m lucky....The last 2 films I saw were Man Of Steel and Pacific Rim..... As a massive Superman fan Man Of Steel was a big Fuck you imo and Pacific Rim bored me after 30mins.... but at least it was an original concept....but you know what they�ll have some Remote Control Clone doing the score and the Zimmerites will flood to the cinema to see this shite

---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 PM ----------


Why all the sequels, reboots, re-imaginings, etc? Simple: Hollywood is a business and sequels make money. More than half the films released this summer were sequels and there are more to come. (Example: we're up to the fourth Transformer's film. Does the world really need another one? The first three were terrible but they were a license to print money. Look at all the attempts to find the next "Harry Potter" or "Twilight." All with the exception of the "Hunger Games" cratered.)

And when original films come along, I'm talking about the science fiction, fantasy and similar genre movies, the public ignores them. ("Cloud Atlas" and "Pacific Rim" come to mind. Thank god for cable, because a series like "Game of Thrones" would never have been green-lit as a movie. Could you imagine how Hollywood would have watered down a GoT, or "Homeland", "Dexter", "Breaking Bad" or "Walking Dead" movie?)

So until moviegoers start voting with their wallets the sequels will keep on coming.

couldn�t have said it better myself..... Star Trek is a prime example.... I hated the Reboot but the had a whole new timeline to play with and what did they do....remake Wrath Of Kahn or Space Seed......

On a final note.... Dexter has been utter garbage since the new showrunner took over in season 5....even Michael C Hall looks bored....Homeland season 2 nosedived off a cliff here�s hoping season 3 will up it�s game because season 1 was fantastic

stringbender
09-26-2013, 05:10 AM
pass

JacqulineWilkin
09-26-2013, 09:37 AM
The costume color is changed entirely to black which looks pretty cool. I think the effects are great. Are they launching this movie in 3d..?

dreamingedge
09-28-2013, 04:10 PM
This film better be like the first robocop movie, or this reboot will fail...

bidam7
10-24-2013, 03:46 AM
i have a feeling this is not gonna measure up to the original

Skeletonsinmycloset
10-26-2013, 03:47 PM
All I can say is it was cool to see that Michael Keaton is in this movie! Love that dude. Might see this who knows.



Creatively though it seems mostly all hollywood does now are remakes. And almost always they have bigger budgets, more effects, but the movie falls very short. Hope it's not the same on this new Robocop...

Killgrave
10-26-2013, 05:14 PM
couldn�t have said it better myself..... Star Trek is a prime example.... I hated the Reboot but the had a whole new timeline to play with and what did they do....remake Wrath Of Kahn or Space Seed......

On a final note.... Dexter has been utter garbage since the new showrunner took over in season 5....even Michael C Hall looks bored....Homeland season 2 nosedived off a cliff here�s hoping season 3 will up it�s game because season 1 was fantastic

I agree, partially. The reboot of "Star Trek" worked for me (that was a surprise) but then Team Abrams fumbled with the second movie. (One of the first rules of writing is "show, don't tell" and we never got to see Khan being Khan. Team Abrams was so intent on keeping Khan a secret that we never got to see his genius at work. And yes I know he blew up a secret Federation intelligence post but that doesn't have the impact of Khan powerlifting Chekov one handed off the floor, putting parasites in Tyrell's ear or almost defeating Kirk in ship to ship combat.

And instead of have a stooge smuggle in a bomb why didn't Khan transwarp a bomb into the facility? Or just create an opening into space and let the vacuum do the rest? The facility didn't have shields.

Killing hundreds at a distant isn't the same as inflicting harm face to face. Instead Cumberbatch had to monologue the audience to death to prove how evil he is and since most of us visiting this forum have seen "The Incredibles" we know the dangers of monologuing. They configured the entire movie so we could see Spock go into berserker mode.)

As for Dexter it unfortunately never recovered after the "Trinity Killer" arc. (According to the showrunners Showtime didn't allow them to kill Dexter. Personally Dexter needed to pay for his crimes just like Walter White did.)

As for "Homeland" I think it recovered in the last episodes of season two although Nazir became a bit too much of a supervillian for my tastes. Season three is off to a questionable start (I really don't care what happens to Dana and boyfriend. Feels too much like filler.) especially after the "big" twist. (Please raise your hand if you didn't see that one coming.) But I'll keep watching for now because the acting and actors are so good even if the scripts aren't.

Killgrave
11-18-2013, 05:42 PM
RoboCop trailer number 2.

RoboCop shows off his silvery new suit in remakes new trailer (http://www.hitfix.com/news/robocop-shows-off-his-silvery-new-suit-in-remakes-new-trailer)

More meh. Unlike the first film where Weller's character had to fight to recover his identity as Murphy and not be a product of OCP, what exactly is this version of Murphy fighting for?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
11-19-2013, 07:26 AM
what exactly is this version of Murphy fighting for?

A sequel.

Killgrave
11-19-2013, 02:29 PM
You are so right. I forgot this is Hollywood and it can't leave well enough alone especially if Hollywood smells the possibility of a multi movie franchise.

Killgrave
11-25-2013, 12:49 AM
Well, looks like something good is coming from the RoboCop reboot, re-imagining, recycling: a reissue.

MGM is issuing a 4K transfer blu-ray of the original RoboCop. Fingers crossed that MGM finally gets the transfer right. (The Robo discs have had a terrible track record: the first disc was so bad the studio put out a second disc that was better but could stand a lot of improvement. Third time is the charm, perhaps.)

And if it is a no kidding-rock solid-sparkling-24 carat-be all it can be transfer: "I'll buy that for a dollar." (or $16.99 pre-order at Amazon.)

Sorry, I always what to find an excuse to say that - the catchphrase not the Amazon thingy. (Now that I have said it I feel so much better.)

Killgrave
01-11-2014, 05:13 PM
Regardless of how the new Robo plays out at least we have a proper remastering of the original Robo, according to the folks at Blu-ray.com. (Also has a pretty good selection of extras.) And that blu-ray is now down to $7.99 on Amazon. And my copy is on pre-order.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-11-2014, 10:57 PM
I read a lot of people there are still arguing over "film grain".
Or they keep using that term like they just learned it and want to prove to everyone they can look smart.

I am seriously going to invest in this release.

I haven't watched it since we *rented* it on VHS!

Killgrave
01-11-2014, 11:30 PM
I read a lot of people there are still arguing over "film grain".
Or they keep using that term like they just learned it and want to prove to everyone they can look smart.

Trying to explain "film grain" to folks who don't understand how film works (it's an optical medium that records images by exposing film to light) reminds me of trying to explain why movies shown in their original widescreen format are superior to the hideous pan and scan format used on VHS and on pre-digital TV channels. ("But you get more picture, it fills the whole screen." And then you counter with aspect ratios and how pan and scan destroys image the director was creating and then their eyes glaze over like day old donuts and you realize you'd have more luck teaching Chinese calculus to kittens and you run off screaming into the night out of sheer frustration.)

Fortunately, the advent and popularity of widescreen TVs has rendered that idiotic discourse to the dustbin of history.

Film has silver, silver is a physical substance and that means grain. Robocop was shot on film, ergo the image will have grain. (DNR - digital noise reduction - can remove grain but then everyone looks like they are made of wax.) The new digital cameras shoot without grain - because the image is just a series of ones and zeroes - but Hollywood, ironically, has spent a great deal of time and money to make the digital image look like film, since digital images can look so sterile and lifeless.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-14-2014, 04:37 AM
digital images can look so sterile and lifeless.

The other issues are that some directors or editors have no clue what they're doing and you get horrible "combing" in certain scenes.

Watching "Public Enemies" is a very poor example of the digital filming because it's riddled with "VFR" (variable frame rates) in a CFR presentation.
Absolutely no work put in to make it look nice and de-combed or telecined to match proper playback rates.

Also Emmerich's "2012" has a few scenes where you can observe this combing effect.

It's really off-putting and makes me think I'm watching the world's worst interlaced movie when it's been mastered as "Progressive".

So there's no real (logical) approach to clean it up (on the home consumer level).

The only thing that can actually make a difference is Avisynth but even with that, I doubt anything remotely good will come of it.

Digital films, lately, are getting better because people are taking the time to learn what the medium actually is.

The Hobbit films done in 48fps are spectacular.

Killgrave
01-14-2014, 06:53 AM
The other issues are that some directors or editors have no clue what they're doing and you get horrible "combing" in certain scenes.
Watching "Public Enemies" is a very poor example of the digital filming because it's riddled with "VFR" (variable frame rates) in a CFR presentation.
Absolutely no work put in to make it look nice and de-combed or telecined to match proper playback rates.


The car crash in Public Enemies is a perfect example of what you're talking about. Suddenly the movie loses its filmic qualities and resembles a home video shot by your drunken uncle. And its one of several in the film. What's really surprising is that the man responsible is director Michael Mann, who until recently, was one of those directors who had a firm command of the substance of a film - his characters were well drawn human beings - and the style of a film. (His action choreography of the bank shootout in Heat - not to be confused with the Sandra Bullock comedy The Heat - is a classic. In fact that movie is so good Christopher Nolan used it as his template for The Dark Knight. (Occasionally style overran substance most notably in The Keep - belch! and The Band of the Hand - double belch!!)

Mann started using digital cameras for his film Collateral and when I saw it in the theater I was surprised how film-like it looked. (With the exception of one scene where Cruse's hitman sends his victim over a balcony and onto a car. Suddenly the "film" looks like video and the change was so jarring I thought something had happened to the projector.) Mann said he used digital cameras because he wanted to shoot with as little lighting as possible and with film that would have meant an excess amount of grain. And the film is starkly beautiful in its emptiness reminding me of a Hopper painting.

But after that Mann went into a slump and Public Enemies was a mess in both the script and the film itself. Hopefully he'll recover his touch for his next film Cyber.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-15-2014, 02:07 AM
It's a damn shame.

That dude has the worst luck in the world.

I hear, to date, that not one single blu-ray of his Last of the Mohicans got a proper treatment I hear.
I hear the film suffered so much from PAL-to-NTSC speed problems for DVD's and BD's.

He does such wonderful films. Heat being my most favorite.

When I went to see TDK in theaters, I immediately recognized the style for the bank robbery in the beginning.
It was really cool to also see William Fichtner in that scene.

After the blu-ray came out, I did a quick edit of mixing Goldenthal's (well, this track was by Brian Eno) "Force Marker" going with the bank heist in TDK.

I also ran Joker's theme over the "vault/walk" heist that they walk away from.
The Joker/Heat edit turned out much nicer.

Ap0c NL
01-16-2014, 07:21 PM
Hi, Robocop is nostalgic, really must see what they make of it now. :)

Killgrave
01-16-2014, 08:33 PM
After viewing this clip from the movie my hope this will be a worthy remake dwindles. Seems they made it for the Call to Duty crowd. (And the music is awful.)

ROBOCOP Annihilates Drones, And His Source Material, In This Clip From The Remake!! - Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/65759)

Killgrave
01-24-2014, 07:17 PM
Judging from this clip the filmmakers are definitely going for the gaming community. (Can you say "First Person Shooter?)

ROBOCOP - Official "Private Property" Movie Clip #2 (2014) [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLMj_F4S0OEzg-AGPY_QrsrZ618Ep1qn3W&v=FfS1ANhIXhQ)

A security force armed with automatic weapons and that outnumbers its opponent lays down its rifles after Robo tazes one guy? That's it? OCP needs to hire guys with calcium in their spines not just cartilage.

slaiyfer
02-06-2014, 05:51 PM
Samuel L Jackson looks weird with hair.

Doc Phibes
02-13-2014, 12:56 AM
Lighting a candle to remember Paul Verhoeven, still alive in Holland... and still not directing a new movie!

Killgrave
02-13-2014, 02:08 AM
Samuel L Jackson looks weird with hair. Saw the movie. Review to follow. Every-time he appeared in the movie I kept expecting Jackson to start shilling the Capitol One credit card.

JuniorF
03-13-2014, 07:01 AM
Too bad Michael Keaton was wasted in this! He should have been Robocop!

ohmygravity
05-29-2014, 01:02 PM
A lot of people from Brazil liked this movie.

TechnoMagi
08-15-2015, 09:05 AM
The movie was decent for a remake that went in a different direction as the original..not bad for a 1 time watch or with the friends...As an 80's baby, I'm a fan of the Original...just like I say Michael Keaton will always be the best Batman.... Enjoy the movie, don't always take comments to heart...

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