Zulu
05-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Well, they're from Terra and Zidane's one. Anyway, did any of you had the slightest hint that Kuja was one the first time you played the game? I can't say that I had, but as always with Final Fantasy, there's bound to be some kind of connection between the villain and the main character.

Question: Did any of you suspect Kuja to be Zidane's brother?

Vaati
05-20-2007, 06:43 PM
Not really, it came as quite a shock. Up until Disc 3 there was little evidence that the two were related. I think the only hint that Kuja knew Zidane was at the end of Disc 1 after being defeated by Beatrix. Kuja acknowledges Zidane and says 'This boy may become a problem...'.

barretboy14
05-20-2007, 06:48 PM
It had to happen. I wasn't very happy when I figured it out because that story is so clich�.

Zulu
05-21-2007, 12:43 AM
It had to happen. I wasn't very happy when I figured it out because that story is so clich�.
I love this game, but I couldn't agree with you more.

fastidious percolator
05-21-2007, 10:48 AM
And I'm happy I didn't figure it out, and didn't saw it coming at once :D thus, destroying the clich� with my ignorance, eh.

kurohime
05-21-2007, 11:12 AM
Yeah, same here. I didn't really figure it out either. XD I'm dense.

It wasn't exactly an "OMG, NO WAI!" moment, but it didn't feel cliche to me because I hadn't really thought about it until Garland talked about it. Then things started to fall into place.

The bigger surprise for me was finding out Dagger was from Madain Sari.

Zulu
05-21-2007, 12:50 PM
The bigger surprise for me was finding out Dagger was from Madain Sari.
That was a much bigger surprise to me as well.

I loved the entire game. xD

Snow Breezer
05-21-2007, 02:25 PM
I didn't see the Zidane/Kuja coming. As well as Dagger's from Madain Sari. Tis a great game.

Lil' Sain
05-25-2007, 09:28 AM
wasn't surpised but didn't surspect it til around end of disk 2

JoSephiroth
05-28-2007, 01:32 AM
Yeah, same here. I didn't really figure it out either. XD I'm dense.

It wasn't exactly an "OMG, NO WAI!" moment, but it didn't feel cliche to me because I hadn't really thought about it until Garland talked about it. Then things started to fall into place.

The bigger surprise for me was finding out Dagger was from Madain Sari.

Same here although I attempt to keep the element of surprise in tact so I don't think about these kinds of things. LOL!

It's a great game though as is the case with most Final Fantasy games.

greenyxi
06-03-2007, 04:22 PM
I thought Blank would have been from Terra. He's a sort of monkey guy.

Masaka_Naraku
06-14-2007, 05:15 PM
I didnt expect it either. XDD I didnt expect the Zidane/Kuja race to be in a seperate planet either.

I loved the game. even though I had to start again countless times cause of data corruption (thats why I make two files). and waiting for months to try on a hard boss. The hardest was the FINAL one. A pain in the ass.
I owned it since I was 11 and completed it in 2006 XD

Agent0042
06-14-2007, 08:33 PM
Can't say I really saw it coming, no.

The game does toss one hint, though, which I only ever really picked up on in hindsight. The elevators in the Iifa Tree --- they don't react until Zidane boards them. They're obviously keyed to respond only to the presence of a Genome (or, more generally, someone from Terra.)

Vaati
06-14-2007, 10:48 PM
They're obviously keyed to respond only to the presence of a Genome (or, more generally, someone from Terra.)

Wow, I never thought of that. I always wondered on my numerous playthroughs why there is no response when Eiko stands on one.

kurohime
06-15-2007, 01:13 AM
The game throws in a lot of hints about Zidane. He's also the only one able to understand anything written in the Oeilvert dungeon, and he's able to decipher the words written on the mirrors in Ipsen's Castle.

Simyaro
06-15-2007, 07:52 PM
I wasn�t completely shocked since I was expecting them to have some sort of conection but i wasn't expecting them to be brothers...

Diricos
06-22-2007, 10:47 PM
The bigger surprise for me was finding out Dagger was from Madain Sari.

Hmm, that felt a little more obvious to me. I mean, in the beginning I could tell that it was her escaping on some boat and the fact that she could summon Eidolons and found Madarin Sari familiar kinda gave it away.

However, on topic, I didn't see the Kuja-Zidane thing coming.


The game throws in a lot of hints about Zidane. He's also the only one able to understand anything written in the Oeilvert dungeon, and he's able to decipher the words written on the mirrors in Ipsen's Castle.

Good point... I never really took much of that into consideration.

Lil' Sain
06-25-2007, 10:16 PM
I never understood why the queen didn't just call gernet Sarah or didn't she know her "real" name

kurohime
06-26-2007, 05:49 AM
Becuase she was supposed to be Garnet, who already had a name.

And Sarah is so plain. WHy not name her after a rock?

:P

Agent0042
06-27-2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah. The fact that that she looked just Brahne's daughter, Garnet, was a rather important plot point. She basically took her and raised her as her own. And hardly anyone was the wiser that any sort of switch had been made.


Tot: "That girl has a horn... That horn... I had completely forgotten about it until now... I'd never been as surprised as I was that day. A ship drifted ashore after a storm... Inside the ship were a woman and a baby girl... The woman was dead, but the girl was still breathing... Imagine my surprise as I looked into the girl's face! Because the girl... ...looked exactly like Princess Garnet, who had just passed away. With one exception... She had a horn! ... The king ordered the girl's horn removed. The girl cried out in pain... He and his wife, Queen Brahne, decided to raise he girl as Princess Garnet..."


Tot was one of the few who knew that she wasn't Brahne's real daughter. For example --- Beatrix didn't know, but when Dagger attempts to tell her later, she informs her that Doctor Tot let her know, but her loyalty remains as strong as ever.

Lil' Sain
06-27-2007, 02:23 AM
oh i never read the part about gernet

Floyd _the_Barber
06-30-2007, 08:09 PM
I never knew that kuja and zidane were brothers, was a bit shocked!

A little off topic here but when you all first saw Garland didnt you think he would be the main villan??

Vaati
06-30-2007, 08:56 PM
At first, yes I have to admit. I thought he would be one of those 'Guys, I'm really the main villain and I've been manipulating everyone for the whole game' type villains.

I was glad that didn't happen, felt a bit relieved when Kuja gracefully kicked him off the castle.

Lil' Sain
06-30-2007, 10:46 PM
thought garlend would be someone who hated kuja who owned a land. figoured you'd get to use him for some battles

kurohime
07-01-2007, 01:40 PM
A little off topic here but when you all first saw Garland didnt you think he would be the main villan??
Garland, yes, I figured would be the main bad guy. The first thing he talks about when he shows up is how Kuja screwed him over so badly, and how he'd show them, etc. etc. etc.

It just seemed like Kuja had been his bitch or something, and anyone with Kuja for a bitch coulldn't be a good guy. :P

Yeah.

Mezmerize591
07-02-2007, 02:04 AM
I never thought Garland was gonna be the main bad guy, honestly. When he appears above Alexandria, he stops Kuja using the Invincible and says "... he's going out of control", or something along those lines.

I thought I was the only one who understood the whole Kuja scene after Zidane and company is defeated by Beatrix. Most people would think he was talking about Vivi, as I did the first time I played it through.

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