Zulu
08-11-2009, 03:18 PM
Difficult, but not necessarily the hardest?

For some reason, Seymour Flux kept me from playing the game for almost a year, up until a couple of days ago where I battled him with relative ease. By chance, all of my Aeons had their Overdrives fully charged, and the battle was so much easier.�I think I last played the game last December, but after a little reading, I found out that getting Aeons into Overdrive is the way to go with Seymour. I know, I can be a little thick sometimes. --;

But now, another boss is driving me nuts, but this time, I'm not about to way another six months to get over my failures. Sanctuary Keeper is by far more "difficult" than Seymour Flux.

So, which boss do you find to be the most "difficult"?

Dragoncurry
08-11-2009, 06:09 PM
The first boss that posed any challenge whatsoever to me was the boss you fight on the Airship (the giant dragon thing) because of the haste issue. This is because the aeon overdrive knock his shit in, didnt prevent him from kicking my ass the next turn haha.

Dr Faustus
08-11-2009, 06:26 PM
What do you call the guy that does "zantetsu" on your ass? Big samuirai guy with a dog. Yojimbo I think it was - I found him really tough in FFX.

Zak
08-11-2009, 06:41 PM
While I was stuck on Evrae and Seymour Flux for a while, I would have to say Yunalesca. She took me at least three days to figure out a strategy for the first time, and I was a long way from learning Holy. Plus, the fact that she has three forms... the second one was the most difficult.
Not to mention the hella LONG scene you have to sit through before fighting her each time, you couldn't skip in this game.

alonelikethewolf
08-11-2009, 07:40 PM
Yea yunalesca was a serious pain but i found the dark aeons to be so annoying, they made me hate the magus sisters :P

Jarosik
08-11-2009, 09:51 PM
I also recall Yunalesca being a real pain in the backside. Every other plot related boss seemed quite straight forward, to be honest.

TM
08-12-2009, 01:38 AM
Yunalesca is a pain in the ass because.

-she counters every single move (although her normal attack was weak)
-in the first stage, she counters physical moves with darkness, magical moves with silence and other actions such as steal or overdrives with sleep, although overcome with relevent protection.
-in the second round, she uses hellbiter to inflict zombie, then regen and cura to cause havoc on your zombified characters, this is annoying because you need to keep atleast one character zombified until the end of the battle and you cannot heal the zombie in question due to the effects of zombification.
-MEGA DEATH, which the bitch might use more then once if you're unlucky.

Zak
08-12-2009, 02:26 AM
Yunalesca is a pain in the ass because.

-in the second round, she uses hellbiter to inflict zombie, then regen and cura to cause havoc on your zombified characters, this is annoying because you need to keep atleast one character zombified until the end of the battle and you cannot heal the zombie in question due to the effects of zombification.


You can keep one (or two but one is better) characters unzombified for this with Holy Water and that way sometimes benefit from her healing and Regen. She's not programmed to be smart enough to know who's a zombie and who isn't, it's random who she uses it on.

But yes it sucks if your only zombie(s) die in the third stage and you have to rely on Hellbiter to save you.

Ceidwad
08-12-2009, 12:12 PM
I found Yunalesca easy enough. Having a strong aeon like Bahamut with a method of healing itself (i.e. own elemental magic, or Curaga/Drain) is the best way to go. You may have to use some spheres to raise its attributes first, but I did that throughout the game anyway as soon as I got the option.

Because aeons are immune to status ailments Yunalesca's Blind, Silence, Sleep, Zombie and Death spells are ineffective. Her regular attacks aren't too much of a problem for aeons either.

Evrae and Seymour's incarnation on Gagazet (I forgot that incarnations name) were tricky bosses in my view. Certain other bosses could be tough also, if you hadn't trained certain characters and you are forced to use them (e.g. Kimahri vs. Biran/Yenke, or Rikku, Tidus and Wakka in the battle against Evrae Altana).

Zulu
08-12-2009, 12:52 PM
Okay, that is it. I need help on the Sanctuary Keeper. Dealing out damage, and taking damage, is not the issue, but it's the self-healing trick that's so annoying. All of my Aeons have their Overdrives fully charged, and they all dish out 9999 in damage, plus I have cursed it with Reflect so it can't heal itself, but then... THEN, it is smart enough to counter that by casting Reflect on ME, and then Curaga, thus healing itself. Its attacks are pathetic, but Tidus is the only one dealing out physical damage (except for the Aeons), as I have used Tidus, Yuna and Lulu from the beginning. Is it just me, or is this boss unusually clever for a boss?

They are not supposed to be that smart. ;;

Agent0042
08-13-2009, 05:38 AM
Yeah, definitely Evrae on the airship. That one really messed me up the first time that I played, I think and I ended up having to ask for help.

Pkaz
08-15-2009, 09:28 PM
Okay, that is it. I need help on the Sanctuary Keeper. Dealing out damage, and taking damage, is not the issue, but it's the self-healing trick that's so annoying. All of my Aeons have their Overdrives fully charged, and they all dish out 9999 in damage, plus I have cursed it with Reflect so it can't heal itself, but then... THEN, it is smart enough to counter that by casting Reflect on ME, and then Curaga, thus healing itself. Its attacks are pathetic, but Tidus is the only one dealing out physical damage (except for the Aeons), as I have used Tidus, Yuna and Lulu from the beginning. Is it just me, or is this boss unusually clever for a boss?

They are not supposed to be that smart. ;;


if it bugs you so much that it casted reflect on you simply dispel it.

Zulu
08-17-2009, 07:32 PM
It's so weird. I defeated it a couple of days ago, this time without any kind of problems. It's amazing how your gaming capabilities are tied together with your mood.

Olde
08-18-2009, 02:28 AM
I never played the European Version, so I'm stuck without being able to judge the difficulty of the dark aeons and Penance. :( But I remember Seymour Flux being the one I had to train up for and repeatedly try to kill the most.

Yu Kiyo
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
When I first played the game with no exp. in FF, it was the boss you fought after Tidus fell overboard at the beginning and Wakka went to get him - oh wait, that was Sin. After I played more, it was every other boss.

But I can defeat almost all of them now expect for the Dark Aeons and Jecht who really p***ed me off.

Zulu
08-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Yunalesca. I battled her for the first time today, and I thought she was going to be a royal pain the ass - she wasn't. The first two forms are push-overs, and if you keep one or two characters zombified for the third battle, the entire thing is laughably easy.

Yuna's Holy hit for 9999. Lulu's Flare hit for 6000-8000 (Doublecast would have helped too, just forgot that she had already learned it xD), and Tidus just keeps hacking away. Her physical attacks are extremely weak, and you only need to revive the one who isn't zombified. Counter her Silence and Blind attacks, and use the Aeons if you really want to do her in. My Bahamut had a huge amount of Overkill done to her.

I know a lot of people find her to be the toughest boss in the game, but personally, I had a thousand times harder struggle with Seymour Flux, and the Sanctuary Keeper, which wasn't as much difficult as it was annoying.

Any thoughts on Yunalesca? Is she overrated? I trained my three main characters extremely well, and I almost have them maxed out, I think it's pretty close. I trained a lot in the Dome and the surrounding areas, and it payed off.

Akira27
09-12-2009, 06:47 PM
When you played the international one...
There was a dark aeons...
Every one of them is very crazy!
The most craziest one is dark magus sister...
you met with them, battled with them and on the first turn you died..
Because It moves first and cast their special thing that called "delta force" or something like that...
It damaged 99.999 to all of your party member, and there goes the Game Over screen..

EnvyEyes
09-21-2009, 03:17 AM
Oh my goodness. That flying creature on the Airship gave me so much trouble. I had to quit for months before I came back and beat it like it was nothing. I don't know how I did it but I just came back and all of a sudden it wasn't hard. I don't know.

And then Lady Yunalesca. Gosh darn that bish. After countless tries, I just gave up forever. With no intentions on coming back. After about a year, if not more, I came back and tried a couple more times and finally got it, but it was still difficult. I hate battles like that. They just break up the flow of your game. I don't appreciate that kind of difficulty at all.

Still haven't finished the last final boss battle in Final Fantasy X-2 and I'm still in that mazy level in Final Fantasy XII towards the end where you have those globes and you choose one, which determines what you will go without for the remainder of your time in the maze, such as "no weapons" or "no magiks" and stuff like that.

Agent0042
09-21-2009, 06:54 AM
FFXII - choose either No Items (not really too bad as long as your characters are halfway decent) or No Mini-Map. (Just pull the larger map if you're getting lost.)

FFX-2 - if you're seriously having trouble beating either Vegnagun or Shuyin, then your characters levels must be shit. Both are complete pussies.

EnvyEyes
09-21-2009, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I did choose the "no map" option exactly for that reason.

And my characters in Final Fantasy X-2 got me that far so they must not be that bad. And it's the timer that messes me up. You have to beat it before it explodes. It's the explosion that gets me. The battle itself is fine and easy and I don't die any other way. If not for the timer, then yes, it would be a piece of cake.

TM
09-21-2009, 09:31 PM
Gosh darn that bish.

Agent0042
09-21-2009, 11:31 PM
I still don't get how you can get beat by Vegnagun. If your characters attacks aren't strong enough to defeat it before the timer, then just switch to a special dressphere and overpower it that way.

Slavka
09-22-2009, 08:52 PM
You know what's funny? I didn't even know there was a timer the first time I beat Vegnagun/Shuyin.

EnvyEyes
09-22-2009, 09:11 PM
That IS funny. Unable to contain my laughter, my sides have now bursted wide open from the inside. I'm in the ambulance on my way to the emergency room as we speak to see if there's anything they can do for me. You see, my ribs are now protruding out and there's nothing holding my liver, spleen and kidney's in. Still, I can't stop laughing. You kill me. ('-')

But yeah, I don't know when I'm picking that game back up. The last time that I went back to a Final Fantasy game was last year during my Red Ring of Death and that was to replay a little bit of Final Fantasy X, which I had already beaten. Guess I should have popped in Final Fantasy X-2 or Final Fantasy XII instead.

Olde
09-23-2009, 03:03 AM
It was definifely Greater Sphere for me.

and lol for not knowing there was a time limit on Vegnagun battle.

Wings-of-Leon
09-25-2009, 12:16 AM
Seymour Flux was a pain, but not that hard.
Yunalesca was just a scary-looking monster that could be easily killed.

Hardest boss for me: Magus Sisters in FFX-2, the little one killed off whoever I switch to a special dressphere with so fast. >< Finally had to beat her to death with a few Dark Knights.

Solaris
09-26-2009, 04:56 PM
Yeah, definitely Evrae on the airship. That one really messed me up the first time that I played, I think and I ended up having to ask for help.


And Yunalesca.

bluelamp
10-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Yunalesca kicked my @ss a bunch of times until I realized Yuna needed Holy. She was probably one of the hardest bosses of any game I've ever played.

Smarty
11-13-2009, 07:59 PM
as for storyline bosses Seymour Flux has got to be the only one i had to use cheap tricks to beat. he was just too unfair. Yunalesca was definitely the most fun battle of the main storyline, very strategic(at least compared to the others). Other than that, i found Neslug very annoying to beat. I took me a while to figure exactly how to do it...

supdup
11-13-2009, 11:52 PM
Seymour Flux was simple for me. Yunalesca though was a bitch. I was going through a stage where I just couldn't beat her. It just didn't work for me. No matter how many times, or how hard I tried she'd kick my ass. My hardest boss ever would be dark aeons. I tried to go back to besaid but that asshole with dark valefor wouldn't let me!!!

Etna
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
One boss which is annoying is a side-mission type known as the Shinryu. He's in the water.
High levels can stand against him pretty much (gotten everyone to level 99+); however,
can someone tell me how to stand up against his "Eraser" kill-bill? Even Stoneproof shields
do not resist him when it comes to that fatal blow....... :(

Agent0042
11-30-2009, 11:37 PM
Since when does Final Fantasy X have levels? Eraser is unblockable and the only way to get him not to use it is to have two of your party members already KOed.

Etna
12-01-2009, 03:18 AM
Since when does Final Fantasy X have levels? Eraser is unblockable and the only way to get him not to use it is to have two of your party members already KOed.

Sphere Level (sorry, I'm so silly); and this sounds like such a cheap, helpless
fool who can't make a stand for himself, a pathetic excuse of a Omake-Boss.

Thanks for the warning. I was never able to figure it out but now someone
tells me finally how to drop his rates of using it. On another hand though,
does it make a difference if the other units aside of the lead unit being
absent also drop his rates of it (starting the fight alone or order the other
two to flee); such as a one-on-one duel?

Agent0042
12-01-2009, 05:04 AM
Not sure what you mean-- you kill off two and he won't use it, period. Here is GameFAQs Monster Arena FAQ-- http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/197344/15294 -- it recommends doing that and then having Wakka finish off Shinryu using his Attack Reels. Either that, or blast him with everything you've got if your characters' Speed is good enough.

7alentine
12-01-2009, 10:39 PM
i never really had much trouble with any of the bosses cause i grinded like crazy...

i had a LOT of trouble with Biran and Yenke Ronso the first time i played cause i hadn't played Kimahri at all, but now they're piss-easy.

if optional bosses count then the most difficult boss for me is probably either Dark Yojimbo (still havent beaten him) or Nemesis.

i WOULD, of course, say Penance, but i've never had the honour of even unlocking him, let alone versing him

ThisBoyMD
12-02-2009, 03:57 AM
yunalesca kicked my ass more times than any other boss.

CC
12-09-2009, 12:45 AM
On my playthrough, I found the most troublesome boss to be Seymour Flux. There's many bosses that give lots of people a hard time (Yunalesca, Evrae, Seymour Omnis, Spectral Keeper), but Flux really had me backed into a corner for a little while. It's a rather lengthy battle, and one that takes a lot of strategy. Now, you're probably wondering why I didn't say Yunalesca; I beat her in one try! Don't ask me how; it was 100% pure unadulterated, untainted, full, total, complete, LUCK. I happened to still have characters in zombie status by her third form, and to top it off, I didn't even have Holy yet! There's a Ripley's Believe it Or Not moment :S
Anyhow, as it stands, my biggest challenge in the game was Seymour Flux. And, I suppose on a side note, Seymour in his "normal" (if you can call anything about him normal) form in Macalania Temple presented a bit of a quandry for me when he brought out Anima to deal with me :S

supdup
12-09-2009, 07:15 AM
Anima is always easy for me because I have all my aeons with max overdrives. Hit him with Valefor and Ifrit's overdrives alone and he's stuffed.

Agent0042
12-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Is there any point in mentioning that Anima is a girl?

CC
12-09-2009, 11:59 PM
HAHA I know it Agent, too many people seem to forget just who Anima is ;)

supdup
12-10-2009, 12:41 AM
I'm not entirely sure because its seymours mum and seymour is 'supposed' to be a guy but from the looks of him his chromosomes are X and a half, meaning his mum or his dad is a she-male. ^^

Seru_Kai
12-10-2009, 12:43 AM
He killed his father Jyscal <-- Guado, and the story mentions his mother but never shows her, leading to Anima (right?) who is female.

Easy mode? :)

Agent0042
12-10-2009, 12:53 AM
Seymour's Mother is Anima's Fayth, you see her when you obtain Anima. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Anima_%28Summon%29

Well, then, and I think you also see her during the flashback sequence in the temple at the Zanarkand Ruins.

supdup
12-10-2009, 12:57 AM
I meant either his mother or his father was a she-male because he's a X and a half

alonelikethewolf
12-20-2009, 02:23 PM
anyone notice if you stop the cut scenes of anima when you break his damage limit he only takes about half the hp as to when it shows his full scene??? annoying

RedMajesty
02-17-2010, 10:29 AM
Yunalesca was the bane of my existence for ages. I totally ballsed up my Sphere Grid paths though, which was probably why the game was more of a challenge than it should have been :P.

Seymour Flux was a pain too, but once I established the winning strategy of Overdriving aeons first and then letting them all unleash the fury he wasn't so bad.

Most annoying would be Dark Shiva as I forgot to get something for Anima's unlock and she then blocked my way to it. Had to basically get Yojimbo to do his one-shot thing on her. Took ages :P.

Smarty
02-17-2010, 01:50 PM
anyone notice if you stop the cut scenes of anima when you break his damage limit he only takes about half the hp as to when it shows his full scene??? annoying

That's not true. Because the long animation has multiple hits by Anima it might seem that he's doing less damage with his short animation which is only 1 hit. But that single hit can do what I like to call "Break the Broken Damage Limit". It can show way more than 99999. I've had it reach millions.

superlusher
02-17-2010, 09:27 PM
storyline boss: Seymour Flux (thats the one on Gagazet right? even when training really hard through every area, he is still takes 2 or 3 attepts)

non-storyline: Dark Bahumut - could never get anywhere with him. could at least beat one of the Magus sis' down, get to 2nd Ixion fight, even beat Shiva, and Yojimbo beat Anima for me! But bahumut, no way. 'fight starts, one attack, two ... im dead.'

FFXV
02-19-2010, 12:41 AM
One of the hardest bosses for me was in the non-international version FFX, Nemisis from the monster arena, it took me like 2-3 hours to kill that thing.

obsecure
02-25-2010, 02:38 AM
I didn't play the game for a long time. I finished it in a week. The hardest was the final aeon ( it took me two days to figure out how to kill it ). but saymore flux was easy for me.

non-canon sousaphone
02-25-2010, 09:15 PM
Storyline: Yunalesca. What an effin' betch.

Bonus: Neslug, mainly because I haven't grinded with Lulu yet. :/

Smarty
02-25-2010, 09:18 PM
Totally agree on Neslug. To this day I can only beat him with 1 way. Use Anima's Overdrive to break his shell in 1 really powerful blast so that he can't heal anymore. And then wail on him with the party.

non-canon sousaphone
02-26-2010, 08:52 PM
Well you have the osojoyous privledge of international version. Us Americans gotta use Ultima Fury with a pimped out Lulu or get someone's Magic maxed out and have them doublecast Ultima. The only party member I have that can do that is Bahamut. >>;

Smarty
02-26-2010, 08:56 PM
I have PAL version, obviously. As far as I know the only difference between PAL and NTSC is the fact that we have an extra super-boss in the end. If there's anything more that's different I wouldn't know :p

Olde
02-28-2010, 08:35 AM
I have PAL version, obviously. As far as I know the only difference between PAL and NTSC is the fact that we have an extra super-boss in the end. If there's anything more that's different I wouldn't know :p

We also don't get the privilege of fighting the dark aeons. If I ever move to Europe, I'm gonna start a new game just for them. As for Neslug, I always doublecast Ultima with Yuna and Lulu once he gets in his shell. It takes a while, but works.

Agent0042
03-01-2010, 12:04 AM
Doesn't that version also have some sort of advanced Sphere Grid system?

Olde
03-01-2010, 05:26 AM
Doesn't that version also have some sort of advanced Sphere Grid system?

That's right, it has two: one for beginners and one for the more advanced (from what I've heard). I wouldn't suppose anyone knows if it's possible get the PS3 to play the PAL version if you got the PS3 in America?

Smarty
03-01-2010, 05:31 AM
Wait a minute? You mean you only have 1 shpere grid? That sucks. The expert grid is really fun to experiment with.

CC
03-05-2010, 05:53 PM
Wait a minute? You mean you only have 1 shpere grid? That sucks. The expert grid is really fun to experiment with.

*JEALOUSY*

:o

Harkus
03-05-2010, 06:55 PM
I always used the expert grid. But it made my Kimhari a jack of all trades. He sucked. Regular grid was good if you wanted to keep them to there intended roles.

CC
03-06-2010, 04:15 PM
Kimahri was always a jack of all trades for me :O I personally like it when my characters in FF games are a little more focused on one thing, rather than being adept at everything. Like FFI; you determine your character classes from the start, and that's what they're going to be, forcing you to plan your strategies based around that. FFII's sort of free-for-all system where you just use whatever you want in order to get better with it was nice though, I thought. Of course, I wound up with everyone as a melee attacker though; Maria could never hit anything to save her life, lol. FFIV was like that too; your characters are whatever class the story predetermined them to be. I seem to struggle with FFIII and FFV the most because, for the life of me, I just cannot seem to keep up with the job class system, having to keep changing them and leveling up my characters as each individual class; it must just be my ADD kicking in, but it's tough for me to make decisions regarding what each character should be in order to handle battles. I always wind up having to resort to online guides to help me decide. So, back to the point, LOL, that's why I never used Kimahri much in the game.

exbonecross
03-12-2010, 02:33 PM
Dark Magus Sister from ffx international

Diabolico
03-13-2010, 03:30 AM
meta ridley, thardus, omega pirate and metroid prime- metroid prime
seriously, who didn't had a hard time with these guys? they aren't hard anymore, I can even kick their back in hard mode and they are that difficult by now (except omega pirate)

mecha-ridley (hard mode, 100%)- metroid ZM
in case you don't know, this dude becomes stronger when you battle him with all the expansions. in hard mode it's even more difficult, starting that you only have half of the normal capacity (each expansion only upgrade your capacity by half in hard mode) and his powerful attacks can kill you in a few hits, specially his claws. good luck

the jaquio- ninja gaiden (NES)
that's just unfair, this guy is no pushover, and if you loose agains him, YOU START OVER ON THE 6 CHAPTER. no guys, that's not the worst part, the worst part is that if you reach him again, you don't recover health as the boss change forms

Agent0042
03-13-2010, 05:58 AM
I don't normally do this much lately-- but, seriously -- ROTFL at the post above.

CC
03-13-2010, 04:12 PM
meta ridley, thardus, omega pirate and metroid prime- metroid prime
seriously, who didn't had a hard time with these guys? they aren't hard anymore, I can even kick their back in hard mode and they are that difficult by now (except omega pirate)

mecha-ridley (hard mode, 100%)- metroid ZM
in case you don't know, this dude becomes stronger when you battle him with all the expansions. in hard mode it's even more difficult, starting that you only have half of the normal capacity (each expansion only upgrade your capacity by half in hard mode) and his powerful attacks can kill you in a few hits, specially his claws. good luck

the jaquio- ninja gaiden (NES)
that's just unfair, this guy is no pushover, and if you loose agains him, YOU START OVER ON THE 6 CHAPTER. no guys, that's not the worst part, the worst part is that if you reach him again, you don't recover health as the boss change forms

I'm with Agent on that . . . as well as a big fat WTF???????????

The Anti-Existence
03-27-2010, 03:10 AM
I'll never get why people found Yunalesca so tough. She was pretty easy for me; maybe took two or three turns.

Now Spectral Keeper... There was a tough ass boss. Hardest by far when it comes to the storyline.

Also, oddly, I had more trouble with Seymour Natus than Seymour Flux.

DannyxDarko
03-30-2010, 05:54 PM
I remember Yunalesca being pretty difficult when she would cast Zombie on all your characters and then wipe all of them out in one blow. That's the thing that sucks about RPG's sometimes is the villain will hit you only once and you're dead. In order to avoid "difficult" bosses I just level up like hell. Sure it's tedious and takes some time but it's well worth it in the end when you come to a difficult boss and you come out of the fight less beaten up. Haha, but then when you get experience it's like, "What? I fought that big-ass thing and only got that much EXP?" lol

Olde
04-01-2010, 03:17 AM
The underwater bosses Evrae Altana and Geosgaeno were bitches when I didn't know how to beat them the first time through.

Come on, underwater petrification = instant shattering? That doesn't even make sense.

supdup
04-01-2010, 11:44 AM
Course it does because when the water pressure (which is more then in the air) pushes down on the... ok never mind it doesn't make sense

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